Former White House chief of staff John Kelly said that it was difficult working in an environment where the president employs his family members. While he didn’t mention Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner by name, he did talk about Trump’s family members “who work in the White House,” and he clarified that he didn’t mean Melania Trump.

The Daily Mail says that Kelly has been making the rounds on news shows to talk about his experience in the Trump administration and his belief that it’s time for Trump’s family members to leave. Kelly was a guest on The David Rubenstein Show on Bloomberg Television, and while he made it clear that Melania Trump is a wonderful person, he didn’t share the same affection for Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner.

“They were an influence that has to be dealt with.”

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